Holwell Hyde Heritage
The Definitive Collection
Tiger Moth Research Updates will appear at the bottom of this page
Panshanger Aerodrome – WHBC Research Appraisal Evidence
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Holwell Hyde Heritage
The video Links below explain a majority of the Aerodrome;
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/police-flying-club/query/TIGER+MOTHS
(Police Flying Club 1956 near Warren gate Farm ‘War Time Buildings)
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/new-indoor-racetrack/query/panshanger
(Bellman Hanger (T2) built in the 1950’s; 1967 indoor cycle track)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAvyDwY8R4M
(Air Raid Shelter near Warren gate Farm ‘War Time building’ includes both north & south sites)
http://audioboo.fm/boos/1091647-panshanger-residents-say-they-don-t-want-to-lose-aviation-history (Audio Interview with Local Historian Michael Packham on Jack FM)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panshanger-Aerodrome-Michael-Packham/dp/0752439170
(Link to Mr Packham’s book on Amazon, on the History of Panshanger)
This website I have created is dedicated to the Heritage, Preservation & Remembrance of former RAF Station Holwell Hyde, The home of the Decoy Factory and a brilliant attempt to save Mosquito Production from German Bombers. After the initial threat was over, the station changed its call sign to RAF Station Panshanger, and the beginning of No1 Elementary Flying Training School, part of '50 Group'; formed at de Havilland in Hatfield with permanent residence at Panshanger. 4800 pilots, from all over the world, were trained at this RAF Station, and their dogged determination helped win the Second World War; The Parade Ground is where the Flight Cadets received their wings. The majority would become Non-Commissioned Sergeant Pilots, those who were commissioned after qualifying for their wings, became Acting Pilot Officers for a probationary period. There were more sergeant pilots in the Battle of Britain than commissioned officers.
The Website is called: http://ab-initio.wix.com/holwellhydeheritage
The E-Petition is called: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/46036
The following is an explanation of what still stands, and their specific names.
WWII Buildings, Names & Locations – South Site
Henry Wood
1944 Lecture Blocks is the current ‘Club House’ as used by North London Flying School (#65 on 1944 map).
1944 Library is located adjacent behind & is demolished with foundations protruding half foot above ground in Henry Wood (#64 on 1944 map).
1944 Blast Shelter (#1) is located on right side of library, in Henry Wood. The concrete roof is missing but the walls are still in place, (B.S on 1944 map).
1944 Link Trainer is located directly to the right of the lecture block, and behind the latrines, in Henry Wood (#63 on 1944 map).
1944 Latrines is located directly to the right of the lecture block, and in front of the link trainer (#62 on 1944 map).
1944 Sub Station is located directly to the right of the latrines (#61 on 1944 map).
1944 Blast Shelter (#2) is located directly opposite blister hanger & annex maintenance, in Henry Wood. The concrete roof is missing but the walls are still in place and in good condition (B.S on 1944 map).
1944 Blast Shelter (#3) is located directly opposite blister hanger storage, rear of hanger, nearest to public bridleway, in Henry Wood. The concrete roof is intact and the walls are still in place and in good condition, but the floor has a modern concrete base (B.S on 1944 map).
Hangers – Right side of 1944 Drive way
1944 Blister Hanger Storage is located right side of 1944 driveway, opposite blast shelter #3; this is in good structural condition (#41 on 1944 map).
1944 Blister Hanger & Annex Maintenance is located right side of 1944 driveway, opposite blast shelter #2; this is in good structural condition, but the annex needs structural repair to exterior wall (#46 on 1944 map).
1944 Blister Hanger is located right side of blister hanger storage, in front of interior 1944 boundary (#38 on 1944 map).
1950’s London Aeroplane Club Hanger is located right side of blister hanger & annex maintenance, next to air strip; not (not shown on 1944 map).
1950’s Cessna ‘T2’ Bellman Hanger is located right side of lecture block; (not shown on 1944 map).
1944 Air Strip is located between the North and South sides of the Aerodrome and includes the whole expanse of the grass area, as this was wholly used in 1944 and throughout world war two, although one section is used now, the whole is being put forward for conservation.
WWII Buildings, Names & Locations – North Site
Bericot Green
Lubricating Oil Tanks is located behind the petrol installation nt store, on the north site – underground tank (#33 on 1944 map).*
Petrol Installation – Aviation is located behind the petrol installation nt store, on the north site – underground tank (#34 on 1944 map).*
Petrol Installation NT is located right side of blister hanger b flight, on north site (#35 on 1944 map).*
Blister Hanger B Flight is located right side of airfield expanse on north site, directly opposite the South site lecture block (#32 on 1944 map).
MT Shed transport is located along right side of boundary, on north site, about 200 yards past blister hanger b flight (#16 on 1944 map).
Air Raid Shelter is located set back from boundary on right side of blister hanger on north site (#ARS on 1944 map).
Blister Hanger is located past the air raid shelter, on the right side of the boundary, further on past mt shed (#75 on 1944 map).*
Petrol Installation – Aviation is located behind the blister hanger, on the north site, set back near exterior (#4 on 1944 map).*
Please Note:
There are other accessible buildings, which may be inside the boundary of Warren gate Farm, especially the Mess, numbered #18; potentially #1 to #31, as the boundary moves in and out of the farm and the aerodrome via earth barriers, please refer to 1944 Map drawing, if in doubt.
INDEX
Assessing the South Site, where the flying school is today, if following this pattern will be circular from start to finish, beginning at #65 on 1944 map.
Assessing the North Site, where warren gate farm is located, is done in a straight line, from start to finish, beginning at #33 on 1944 map.
* = Buildings which are similar on map, and may be close by.
Dean McBride Founder Holwell Hyde Heritage Tuesday, 23 April 2013.
The following text is the History Introduction from this websites first page;
'This site is dedicated to the Heritage, Preservation & Remembrance of former RAF Station Holwell Hyde, The home of the Decoy Factory and a brilliant attempt to save Mosquito Production from German Bombers. After the initial threat was over, the station changed its call sign to RAF Station Panshanger, and the beginning of No1 Elementary Flying Training School, part of '50 Group'; formed at de Havilland in Hatfield with permanent residence at Panshanger. 4800 pilots, from all over the world, were trained at this RAF Station, and their dogged determination helped win the Second World War; This page is looking at the Parade Ground where the Flight Cadets received their wings. The majority would become Non-Commissioned Sergeant Pilots, those who were commissioned after qualifying for their wings, became Acting Pilot Officers for a probationary period. There were more sergeant pilots in the Battle of Britain than commissioned officers'.
According to David G's meeting on the 1st of May, there is a 4th Blast Shelter across from the aerodrome, in the boundary of the lafarge quarry site, located just inside from the dip in the road. Currently seeking permission from lafarge to view it and also the remaining buildings at warrengate farm where the RAF Mess hall is located on the North side of the aerodrome. The 4th Blast Shelter is actually an 18th Century Cold Store.
Thank-You for taking the time to read this page through...
In Memory of those who Served at Panshanger...
Date: 25 March 2013
Subject: Panshanger Aerodrome
Message:
HI - My parents met because of this site - my father (from Ireland) was one of the workers who created the aerodrome and he was lodged with my grandparents in Birch Green. Later my mother worked in the canteen when De Havillands had the site.
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: Heritage Website Enquiry
Well done Dean.
One other little thing:
You refer to ‘Pilot Officers’ on parade and getting their wings etc.
Really, they were ‘Flight Cadets’ and the majority would have become non-commissioned Sergeant Pilots. Those who were commissioned after qualifying for their wings became ‘Acting Pilot Officers’ for a probationary period. There were more Sergeant Pilots in the Battle of Britain (I believe) than commissioned officers. (And more Hurricanes than Spitfires....)
It would be very sad to see what remains of Panshanger Airfield built on. Some of the old hangars have not been maintained due to the uncertainty of the future and of course, most are now beyond redemption which is very sad.
Keep banging on the door.
All best.
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 12:02 PM
To: deanmcbride49@googlemail.com
Subject: RE: Freedom of Information Request - Panshanger Aerodrome
Dear Mr McBride
Thank you for your enquiry. I have attached the only plan we have of Panshanger: we have no plans of Holwell Hyde, or indeed of any decoy sites. Colin Dobinson's book "Fields of Deception" (Methuen, 2000) is a study of the decoy system during the Second World War and contains some illustrations showing equipment used at such sites - you would be very welcome to make an appointment to see our copy. It would appear that Holwell Hyde's decoys included not only dummy buildings but also lights (QL) and a small fire decoy (QF).
Finally, there is a small amount of information on decoy sites in the National Archives; in particular there are details of attacks in decoy sites under the references HO 198/122 to 127.
Yours sincerely
Royal Air Force Museum
Wednesday 1st May 2013.
Following a meeting with, and a letter received from Mr David G from Welwyn Garden City. David writes; His Grandfather came home from the South African War. Then in 1915 he rejoined the army and was sent to Panshanger Aerodrome as a Guard, as far as he knows, he stayed there until the First World War ended. David himself moved to WGC in 1945. On a copy of his grandfathers certificate of {transfer to reserve} on demobilization, he was transfered to the reserves on the 21st August 1915 Royal Air Force, Herts Regiment.
Following a visit to the University of Hertfordshire Heritage Networking Group last Thursday 27th of June 13, and speaking to Herts at War, there were up to 12 RFC Groups that covered areas in WW1 from RFC Northolt and across Hertfordshire including Panshanger.
From: mike packham
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 7:56 PM
To: Forward
Subject: RE: Turkish Air Force in 1944
Hi Dean
Turkish Officer Cadets were trained to fly at Hatfield and Panshanger from November 1943 as part of support for Allied or non-aligned nations. There was a longer term goal for the Allies to have continued friendly relations with southern European States after the War, preventing them joining the Eastern Bloc and this was the case.
The parade on page 32 is of a passing out parade for Turkish Officer Cadets. The date for this is April 1944. A large party was held at the Stone House Hotel, Hatfield afterwards.
Before, during and after the war the Turkish Air Force purchased a number of British aircraft types, including the De Havilland Mosquito in 1946. Later, American aircraft delivered under the Marshal Aid Plan, replaced British types but Turkey became a NATO country and has remained pro-West ever since.
Hatfield and Panshanger received a number of cadets from many countries, including Belgium, France, Netherlands, Yugoslavia and Canada. It entertained diplomatic missions from South America and other continents, a truly multinational operation.
Regards,
Mike
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Tiger Moth Research Updates
As it stands, there are '2 Air Worthy Panshanger Tiger Moths; 1 is from WW2 while the other is from the Police Flying Club, both based at Panshanger Aerodrome.
G-ANOH Police Flying Club - Panshanger 1956-1960. & G-AHIZ WWII - Panshanger 1944.
From: Forward
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:05 PM
To: Steve B
Subject: Fw: Panshanger Tiger Moth GAHIZ
Hi Steve.
This is your copy (that did not send),
Regards,
Dean McBride
Holwell Hyde Heritage
From: Forward
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:00 PM
To: DH Moth
Cc: d lewis; SteveB; dave_k
subject: Fw: Panshanger Tiger Moth GAHIZ
Hi Stuart.
I suppose now is as good a time as any; I am also researching all Tiger Moths that were based at Panshanger Aerodrome / Holwell Hyde from 1938 to 1947 with the RAF and in the 1950’s with the Police Flying Club & the London Aeroplane Club. The purpose is to draw the community back in to Panshanger for future generations; there is the modern element already doing that at North London Flying School and the Revival & Moth days, as I’m sure you know; a little glimpse of the past also with a living (working) Museum, something that de Havilland never got after Hatfield Aerodrome was built on. Its a big ask, I know. If the aerodrome is saved then I would hope the owners could set aside space for a Living Heritage Museum for Tiger Moths, so I suppose this is the un-official ground work, if you like.
Is there any information on Tiger Moths, that you can tell me about, of those still in an air worthy condition, anywhere in the UK.
Kind Regards,
Dean.
Holwell Hyde Heritage.
From: Forward
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:40 PM
To: d lewis
Cc: m p
Subject: Fw: Panshanger Tiger Moth GAHIZ
Hi Mr Lewis.
I am trying to find out about the early years at Panshanger Aerodrome from 1938 to 1947 regarding any surviving Tiger Moths (mainly) or other aircraft used there by the RAF. I was also trying to locate moths from the Police Flying Club of the 1950’s.
Is there anything you can add?
Kind Regards,
Dean McBride
Holwell Hyde Heritage
From: Steve B
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:00 PM
To: 'David K' ; 'Forward'
Cc: d lewis
Subject: RE: Panshanger Tiger Moth GAHIZ
Dear Dean,
G-AHIZ was a late build Tiger Moth, built by Morris Motors at Cowley in 1944.
Its c/n is 86533 and its military serial was PG624.
The aircraft was bought by CFG from the London Aeroplane Club at Panshanger in January 1956. The amount paid, we think, being £325.
CFG liked the LAC’s colour scheme of yellow and silver and adopted them for itself.
I’m not sure what else we know about its early history, but you might try our archivist Dave L. He can be reached at:
d lewis
Alternatively, although a very busy man to contact, might be Stuart M, Secretary of the de Havilland Moth Club. Stuart probably has the most extensive records and knowledge of all things Moth of anybody on the planet.
Kind regards
Steve B
CFI
Cambridge Flying Group
From: David K
Sent: 17 May 2013 14:56
To: 'Forward'
Cc: 'Steve B
Subject: RE: Panshanger Tiger Moth GAHIZ
Dear Dean.
I have copied your letter to our CFI who I hope will be able to furnish you with some information. In the meantime I refer you to our website which will give you some general information about our Group and the aircraft. Good luck with your project.
Best Regards,
Dave K.
Bookings Manager.
Cambridge Flying Group.
dave k
www.cambridgeflyinggroup.co.uk
From: Forward [mailto:deanmcbride49@googlemail.com]
Sent: 17 May 2013 14:07
To: dave_k
Cc: m p
Subject: Panshanger Tiger Moth GAHIZ
Dear Mr K.
I am trying to find any Tiger Moth Bi-Planes that were based or used at Panshanger Aerodrome during the 40’s or 50’s, because I am trying to make the connection with current flying Tiger Moths and Panshanger Aerodrome from a point of History, as I have set up a heritage group to try and convince my local council that panshanger aerodrome is a community asset. I have set up a website (and although a free one) is full of information on the aerodrome including up to 24 you tube films & numerous documents as I was a part of a community campaign.
For my website, compiling a list of current and flying Tiger Moths, to connect the dots but also show the local community and the powers that be that there is real history worth saving. I have been in touch with Michael P who wrote the book on the aerodrome, as well Farnborough BAE Systems, and anyone else who would respond including Air Command.
I hope when the Appraisal is carried out at the aerodrome in the next 3 weeks, that the council go on and award the aerodrome ‘Conservation Area’ status, something which I have been pushing for months.
What can you tell me about Tiger Moth GAHIZ. I am not a pilot but one day I hope to be, but hopefully this aerodrome can not only be saved but restored and reused as I have recommended to the council a Living Heritage Museum here.
My website is: ab-initio.wix.com/holwellhydeheritage
My motto is: Ab-Initio Verimus Calum
which means ‘from the very beginning to high in the sky’.
looking forward to your reply, tips & advice on Tiger Moths.
Kind Regards,
Dean McBride
Founder
Holwell Hyde Heritage
Dean.
On Jun 11, 2013 9:32 AM, "Shirley R" <shirley_r> wrote:
Hi Dean, It appears that Dad, Mike Russell 1930 -2007 got his hours in! I've just sent these as JPGs Let me know if you need a better scan. I could possibly find the relevant pages in his logbooks if it would be of interest. Dad spent his life in aviation, after National Service, he became a commercial pilot, but was also a gliding/vintage glider enthusiast and DH fan. He owned and restored the Dragon Rapide that is now down in Cornwall (Sybille) also known as Tango Mike, and flew her and a Tiger Moth he rebuilt from scrap G-MOTH (still in Essex) as a pleasure flight operation at Duxford in the 70s -80s, known as Russavia Ltd.. The DH 53 Hummingbird G-EBQP he was restoring when he died in 2007 is at the DH Museum.Dad kept everything, and I have been sorting it all out for the last few years. I'm so pleased that these letters are of interest, I'd kept them mostly for the family history file. Dad's father DA Russell published the Harleyford /Harborough books, owned and owned/edited Aeromodeller Magazine and various other books and mags. I've a huge archive of this stuff going back to the 1930s which I'm in the process of trying turn into a cards and prints business, hence my appearance on Twitter. Most of it has been boxed up since the 1970s so it's been something of a voyage of discovery.Kind Regards,Shirley.
'Dad was well in known in vintage aviation circles. Have you been in touch with DH Support at Duxford? -they are the 'go-to' people for Tiger Moth engineering/parts and might be able to help with publicity in some way. Mark Miller is a friend and led the flypast from Duxford over Dad's funeral wake at Audley End airfield'.
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Message details:
From: Johnny K
Email: j
Date: 03 July 2013
Subject: Save Pans aerodrome.
Message:
I support your efforts to save the aerodrome from closure. It is indeed historic, and I personally have been associated with it since the mid-50's, when my father, a Fleet Air Arm pilot, flew from Pans. In the 1960's I started flying training there, and still fly an aeroplane associated with the airfield for many years. If this atrocious proposed closure goes ahead, not only will a valuable and historic landmark be lost, but the surrounding area will be trashed. How does this tally with Herts Council's once stated aim to develop the old Panshangar estate as a country park? (Once Le Farge gravel extraction is exhausted. Yours Sincerely, Jon K. Local resident and user of Panshangar airfield.
From: Jonathan K
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 7:51 PM
To: Dean McBride
Subject: RE: Panshanger Aerodrome
Thanks for your reply as below. By the way, apologies for misspelling Panshanger with an a rather than e-I always make this mistake-must be the amount of dusty hangars I've been in.
Someone on your site was asking about Tiger Moths at Panshanger. A very well known one resident there,with owner Wally C, in the 1960's into the 70's until he had a crash in it. He flew it most days of the week and did spirited aerobatics around the local area specially over my village. Much appreciated! Wally owned a business on the Hertingforbury Road outside Hertford and after the crash the sad remains were for sale outside his factory. I think Wally finally went to live in Australia. He took me up for aerobatics a couple of times. Any Moth information is best got from Stuart M, head of the DH M Club. They have a website. He has written books about dH and Moths, has his own, and is a world renowned expert, and a fan of Panshanger I'm sure. So many characters have come and gone through that airfield. My instructor was Baron Derek de Sarigny at Pans, flying Auster Autocrats of the 'Wasp Flying Group' which still exists with one of the Austers I mentioned.
The big danger I see is if the existing North London Flying Club was forced to close for any reason other than this development happening-such as declining fortunes due to our appalling summers recently affecting flying training. The club seems OK at the moment but aviation is a volatile business. That club saved the field from total anhialation since the 1990's. If the field became empty, just with a few private owners remaining trying to keep things going, it would encourage the developers, etc. to argue that the aviation side had died out. Apart from the lack of suitable airfields left in Hertfordshire, my strong feelings against housing development are also due to the possible wrecking of the rural character of the area, specially the adjacent Panshanger Park estate, which as I mentioned I thought was eventually going to be a country park, or was this just some Herts council false promise?
I work in the film/TV industry (not much now, but still get some work ), and have a great interest in Panshanger's film orientated history-as a WW2 decoy airfield with sets painted by Elstree studios artists to look like Hatfield's aircraft factory, and later as a setting in many feature films. Eg The Abominable Dr Phibes, The Bofors Gun, Hopscotch (Walther Mathau), Rentadick, Our Miss Fred, and many more.
Please keep me informed of developments, and if I can do anything to help stop the b******* destroying the airfield, I will do so.
Ironic that in the 70's we had a similar fight against development there, and the Hertfordshire Flying Association was set up to fight the proposals, with Wing Commander Carr, a Tiger Moth owner, as an active participant.
Regards. Jon.
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 18:19:42 +0100
Subject: Panshanger Aerodrome
From: deanmcbride49@googlemail.com
To: johnny
Hi Jon.
I agree with you, this aerodrome, even as it is in its smaller size should stay.
I have lobbied the council over the handling of Hatfield Aerodrome closure and how it relates to Panshanger Aerodrome.
In my freedom of information act requests on both aerodromes, no specific protection were afforded to them apart from listed buildings to Hatfield. Of the 4 remaining buildings at Hatfield site, only 3 are listed. The canteen which is the Kfc is not. All 4 were supposed to be listed but only 3 were so I asked the council was their findings correct with no reply received.
The biggest shocker was there is No Historic Environment Record for Welwyn Hatfield and this is what English Heritage had directed me to before I decided on Conservation of Panshanger Aerodrome.
As in the local paper this week, its costing the council £13,000 to do this Appraisal with their expected cutbacks to follow again. Its a small price to pay to save a lifetime of joy! for the community and it will be things like this aerodrome that will see us through the recession with somewhere decent to go.
There is a potential connection that the Herts Regiment RAF / RFC used this area in WW1 with up to 12 RFC Groups covering here from Northolt.
There is a load of discoveries made with and without Michael Packhams book, this website has produced a few surprises.
I have tried to keep the history of panshanger in the local paper every couple of weeks, to keep it fresh in peoples minds.
I am confident that this aerodrome will be saved and I'm sure the council know it too but they just hope perhaps I will go away.
I have lived in Welwyn Hatfield nearly 14 years and this aerodrome has been the only cause I have taken on.
I believe the aerodromes past is also the aerodromes future.
Kind Regards
Dean McBride
Holwell Hyde Heritage.
From: Jonathan K
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:26 AM
To: Dean McBride
Subject: RE: Fleet Air Arm
Thanks. I expect you know AOPA (aircraft owners association) I think they are running some kind of petition about pans but may be wrong.
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:19:37 +0100
Subject: RE: Fleet Air Arm
From: deanmcbride49@googlemail.com
To: johnny
Thanks Jon.
With me its been a case of trial and error.
My research has not showed Fleet Air Arm only RCN so I thought I'd best check.
I have been in touch with everyone in the know, right up to the chairman of gaac.
Kind Regards,
Dean.
On Jul 4, 2013 10:11 AM, "Jonathan wrote:
Maybe you got wrong end of stick re. my Father. He was indeed in Fleet Air Arm, a Lieutenant-Commander, and took part in Operation Torch, the invasion of North Africa, as well as being based at various UK places like Lee on Solent and even at the Admiralty. He had first learnt to fly at Hatfield in 1938, using DH Hornet Moths, at the then London Aero Club, which as you probably know moved to Panshanger from Hatfield after the war.
His connection with Panshanger was from about 1958, when he became interested in reactivating his pilots ticket which had lapsed in about 1952, following some interesting trips he made around Europe in DH Rapides and Ansons, on business for his company, George K, of Luton. he flew himself on these trips.
He resumed flying at Pans from 1958, and made many private flights with family as passengers, until packing it in in about 1963 due to increasing business comittments leaving no time for flying. So sorry to say there is no actual Fleet Air Arm flying I know of at Pans apart from my fathers connection...
Interesting about your comment about DH heritage centre falling through. I was at BAe at Hatfield until 1992, and got involved with the situation a bit, knowing PB, who was running the Colney Mosquito Museum then, and who was pushing to move it all to Hatfield.
Some blamed him for it all falling through, but it's far more likely that the Council and Developers had no intention of having 40 acres of flying heritage ever...IMHO..During that period and after, I made a video about the history of Hatfield Airfield; 'Wooden Wonders to Whisper Jets' -60 years of aviation at Hatfield.- It used to be sold at the Mosquito and Mill Green museums, it was produced by my then company 'F Film.'
Talking of Panshanger connections there is a mention in a Nevil Shute book of an Australian doing flying training at Pans in the early 50's. Trouble is I can't remember which of his books it was! may have even been a Town Like Alice but don't think so.
Regards. Jon
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 09:31:57 +0100Subject: Fleet Air ArmFrom: deanmcbride49@googlemail.comTo: johnnyHi Jon.You mentioned your father was in the Fleet Air Arm and flown from Panshanger, can you give me a little bit more information that you don't mind being in the local news paper, as I update the times with my work breakthroughs as they happen including a letter from the Queen on Panshangers History, received yesterday.I am sending off today to the 'Commander, Vice-Admiral of the Royal Canadian Navy' who had Junior Officers here at the panshanger aerodrome in WWII.As much as I can find on local history and it seems Panshanger alone has the richest history of the local borough of any place so far.I also have a govt epetition on the heritage if you search Holwell Hyde Heritage on their site.Kind Regards,DeanP.s.I'm sending letters to the Bolivian & American Embassies also and looks like now I will soon be contacting our own Royal Navy.
From: Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:38 PM
To: Dean McBride
Subject: Savepanshanger.co.uk
The web site I saw was www.savepanshanger.co.uk Sorry tried to copy and paste the link but it didn't work. It looks quite a comprehensive site but not as informative as your site! There is an aerial pic of the site on the savepanhanger site and I am shocked to see the amount of development that has occurred already.
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 11:01:57 +0100
Subject: RE: Fleet Air Arm
From: deanmcbride49@googlemail.com
To: johnny
Thats a juicy bit of info.
I head up the heritage group and for a time was leading save panshanger group but since the public meeting in January a Residents Committee was formed to see the campaign forward 'panshangerpeople@gmail.com'
Are the result of save panshanger campaign. They now control the old save panshanger website and have their own plus have a third group name as panshanger aerodrome community trust.
My group is to secure permanent protection on the aerodrome whereas the others are to prevent housing in panshanger or thereabouts.
Regards,
Dean.
Thanks. I expect you know AOPA (aircraft owners association) I think they are running some kind of petition about pans but may be wrong.
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:19:37 +0100
Subject: RE: Fleet Air Arm
From: deanmcbride49@googlemail.com
To: johnny
Thanks Jon.
With me its been a case of trial and error.
My research has not showed Fleet Air Arm only RCN so I thought I'd best check.
I have been in touch with everyone in the know, right up to the chairman of gaac.
Kind Regards,
Dean.
